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JacobWillson
How Vampires Are Immortal: My theory
Mar 1 2014, 2:07 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 1 2014, 8:30 PM EST
One day I was sitting in class listening to my teacher and a few students argue about how certain things can in fact be immortal. (My teacher is a Biology teacher as well, so it made for an interesting conversation.) Back to my point, they talked about how certain species of sea life can be immortal, such as different types of jellyfish. My teacher went on saying that alothough in theory those jellyfish can live forever, other things can still affect whether the creature lives or not. (Disease, famine, getting eaten.... Etc.) And I thought, "Well yeah, duh. But how do they live "forever"? What makes them live so long?" As if my teacher were reading my mind, he answered that question very simply. Cell replication. Some scientists/biologists believe that we all age because of cell mutation as we get older. (Yes. We are all in fact mutants!) But if there were a certain virus linked to DNA that would make every cell replicate perfectly, in theory we would never die.

Have you ever seen a glow fish at the pet store? In order to achieve that "glow" effect, scientists take the genetic coding from a jellyfish's DNA molecule, and copy it exactly and place that coding on a virus linked to DNA which replaces the fish's genetic code for 'scale' color with the jellysish's. Now, think if there was a virus linked to DNA that gets rid of all of the genetic imperfections within DNA! In my own opinion, I think that could be one of the main factors that lead to vampires living forever.

What do you all think?
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GoblinGrim
1. RE: How Vampires Are Immortal: My theory
Mar 1 2014, 4:42 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 1 2014, 4:42 PM EST
"One day I was sitting in class listening to my teacher and a few students argue about how certain things can in fact be immortal. (My teacher is a Biology teacher as well, so it made for an interesting convresation.) Back to my point, they talked about how certain species of sea life can be immortal, such as different types of jellyfish. My teacher went on saying that alothough in theory those jellyfish can live forever, other things can still affect whether the creature lives or not. (Disease, famine, getting eaten.... Etc.) And I thought, "Well yeah, duh. But how do they live "forever"? What makes them live so long?" As if my teacher were reading my mind, he answered that question very simply. Cell replication. Some scientists/biologists believe that we all age because of cell mutation as we get older. (Yes. We are all in fact mutants!) But if there were a certain virus linked to DNA that would make every cell replicate perfectly, in theory we would never die.

Have you ever seen a glow fish at the pet store? In order to achieve that "glow" effect, scientists take the genetic coding from a jellyfish's DNA molecule, and copy it exactly and place that coding on a virus linked to DNA whish replaces the fish's genetic code for skin color with the jellysish's. Now, think if there was a virus linked to DNA that gets rid of all of the genetic imperfections within DNA! In my own opinion, I think that could be one of the main factors that lead to vampires living forever.

What do you all think?"
Honestly....?
EXELLENT theory!
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I4N
I4N
2. RE: How Vampires Are Immortal: My theory
Mar 1 2014, 8:30 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 1 2014, 8:30 PM EST
"One day I was sitting in class listening to my teacher and a few students argue about how certain things can in fact be immortal. (My teacher is a Biology teacher as well, so it made for an interesting convresation.) Back to my point, they talked about how certain species of sea life can be immortal, such as different types of jellyfish. My teacher went on saying that alothough in theory those jellyfish can live forever, other things can still affect whether the creature lives or not. (Disease, famine, getting eaten.... Etc.) And I thought, "Well yeah, duh. But how do they live "forever"? What makes them live so long?" As if my teacher were reading my mind, he answered that question very simply. Cell replication. Some scientists/biologists believe that we all age because of cell mutation as we get older. (Yes. We are all in fact mutants!) But if there were a certain virus linked to DNA that would make every cell replicate perfectly, in theory we would never die.

Have you ever seen a glow fish at the pet store? In order to achieve that "glow" effect, scientists take the genetic coding from a jellyfish's DNA molecule, and copy it exactly and place that coding on a virus linked to DNA whish replaces the fish's genetic code for skin color with the jellysish's. Now, think if there was a virus linked to DNA that gets rid of all of the genetic imperfections within DNA! In my own opinion, I think that could be one of the main factors that lead to vampires living forever.

What do you all think?"
Excellent theory, but either way people would die. With people who do not age, we would overpopulate the planet, leading us into a new dark era. People would be killing each other, or dying of starvation. Some would have psychological effects, like not wanting to live forever, so they would kill themselves. Sounds harsh, I know. But being immortal is nearly impossible.
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JacobWillson
3. RE: How Vampires Are Immortal: My theory
Mar 1 2014, 8:37 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 1 2014, 8:37 PM EST
"Excellent theory, but either way people would die. With people who do not age, we would overpopulate the planet, leading us into a new dark era. People would be killing each other, or dying of starvation. Some would have psychological effects, like not wanting to live forever, so they would kill themselves. Sounds harsh, I know. But being immortal is nearly impossible. "
Well yeah. It's just a theory about why vampires live as long as they do. However, I'm not quite sure why they need to drink blood. I've gotten the science part worked out, but the whole blood area is still a bit grey.

That's why nothing is ever truly immortal as well. Everything can die. But my whole point was that in a perfect world, if everyone had perfect DNA coding for cell replication, we would all live forever.
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I4N
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4. RE: How Vampires Are Immortal: My theory
Mar 1 2014, 8:41 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 1 2014, 8:41 PM EST
"Well yeah. It's just a theory about why vampires live as long as they do. However, I'm not quite sure why they need to drink blood. I've gotten the science part worked out, but the whole blood area is still a bit grey.

That's why nothing is ever truly immortal as well. Everything can die. But my whole point was that in a perfect world, if everyone had perfect DNA coding for cell replication, we would all live forever."
Why they drink blood... Hmm.. Well, that might be a debatable theory, because other people have other ideas. Maybe you should ask one? You do seem to obsess over them a little.
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MedianFare
5. RE: How Vampires Are Immortal: My theory
Mar 1 2014, 11:05 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 1 2014, 11:05 PM EST
Complete immortality has always been kind of scary to me...I would hate to see if someone found a way to achieve complete immortality >.< 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
M.i.b.s
M.i.b.s
6. RE: How Vampires Are Immortal: My theory
Mar 1 2014, 11:37 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 1 2014, 11:37 PM EST
this isn't a good theory.... sorry but vampires do age and they do die from old age, just not as quickly as us, their age scale is different; basically they don't age year by year, depending on the "purity" of what ever makes a person a vampire, they will age at different scales suck as a 1/3 growth rate or the equivalant of one years growth every three years (a rough estimate and unless a vampire decided to count the period growth rates then no one would l know the scale of growth) my theory also explains why their hair and nailes do not grow as quickly, the blood thing is a toss up, oh and their is a molecular theory about how their molecules travel at a different rate then most peoples... oh and human cells mutate the same as any other creature's cells over time if we were to mutate we would "evolve" or progress through the chain of evolution or the "mutant" would be seperated and hated 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

GoblinGrim
7. RE: How Vampires Are Immortal: My theory
Mar 2 2014, 4:36 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 2 2014, 4:36 PM EST
"Complete immortality has always been kind of scary to me...I would hate to see if someone found a way to achieve complete immortality >.<"
....What about Opra Winfrey???
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8. RE: How Vampires Are Immortal: My theory
Mar 2 2014, 4:53 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 2 2014, 4:53 PM EST
"Why they drink blood... Hmm.. Well, that might be a debatable theory, because other people have other ideas. Maybe you should ask one? You do seem to obsess over them a little. "
Maybe they drink blood so they can replace the cells they have in their body with new ones.
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MedianFare
9. RE: How Vampires Are Immortal: My theory
Mar 2 2014, 5:05 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 2 2014, 5:05 PM EST
"....What about Opra Winfrey???"
...I dont really care too much about Opra Winfrey XD
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JacobWillson
10. RE: How Vampires Are Immortal: My theory
Mar 2 2014, 5:35 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 2 2014, 5:49 PM EST
"Why they drink blood... Hmm.. Well, that might be a debatable theory, because other people have other ideas. Maybe you should ask one? You do seem to obsess over them a little. "
No, I don't obsess over them. I love Greek Mythology, mythical creatures, folklore.... Explaining why I thought of vampires when we were talking about immortality. -Not absolute immortality.
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JacobWillson
11. RE: How Vampires Are Immortal: My theory
Mar 2 2014, 5:46 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 2 2014, 5:46 PM EST
"this isn't a good theory.... "
It's not like I'm a scientist or anything. And it is what it is, a theory. I never said it was the absolute ONLY reason why they live "forever".

"My teacher went on saying that although in theory those jellyfish can live forever..."

"Theory" is the key word. Nobody has ever proved that the jellyfish, for example, can live forever. But, in "theory" they can. They probably, like you said, just die at a different rate than us. Sort of like trees if you think about it that way.

Humans' cells do mutate like other LIVING things, hence the theory of how we might all die. We are all in fact mutants. Evolution doesn't just occur within one generation or one lifetime, just so you know.

If you thoroughly thought about my theory, you would understand what I was trying to explain. If the DNA in a regular person's body was over-written by a virus carrying the "perfect" DNA coding, no mutations would occur in the DNA over time, thus resulting in perfect cell replication. Think about it... Say that you're 20, you happen to catch this "virus", and your cells become "perfected"... If your cells were to keep replicating exactly the same and they were healthy, you'd never get older, in THEORY.
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GoblinGrim
12. RE: How Vampires Are Immortal: My theory
Mar 2 2014, 5:56 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 2 2014, 5:56 PM EST
"Excellent theory, but either way people would die. With people who do not age, we would overpopulate the planet, leading us into a new dark era. People would be killing each other, or dying of starvation. Some would have psychological effects, like not wanting to live forever, so they would kill themselves. Sounds harsh, I know. But being immortal is nearly impossible. "
Ian, YES! SO TRUE!

I just had this Grisly thought, though..., In order to survive, an immortal species would likely turn to cannibalism, when the natural food supplies ran out! *shivers* (Drumstick, anyone...?)
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I4N
I4N
13. RE: How Vampires Are Immortal: My theory
Mar 2 2014, 8:09 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 2 2014, 8:09 PM EST
"Ian, YES! SO TRUE!

I just had this Grisly thought, though..., In order to survive, an immortal species would likely turn to cannibalism, when the natural food supplies ran out! *shivers* (Drumstick, anyone...?)"
That would most likely happen after a matter of years, countries going to nuclear war over food, we'd just kill each other off.
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GoblinGrim
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Mar 2 2014, 8:17 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 2 2014, 8:17 PM EST
"That would most likely happen after a matter of years, countries going to nuclear war over food, we'd just kill each other off."
That is the most likely scenario, yeah.
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